Friday, June 29, 2007

Asking The Tough Questions Part 2: Schoolyard Rules


Everyday I read about how the government is in the divorce business. How the system is making tons of money by breaking up families, handing the moms the kids and the dads the bill. I hear how crippling the amount of child support is and how unfair the laws are. I read things like the Bradley Amendment and 42-666 and am forced to agree.

Ok so color me convinced. Now tell me how we can convince Uncle Sam and his minions to simply cease breaking up families for profit?

Rallies? Protests? Be serious. We are not talking a Million Man March here. We are talking about small groups of guys having to take a day off work to stand around waving a few banners.

Letters/phone calls to politicians? C’mon people…these are the same politicians who are taking your money. Do you think reminding them of that fact is going to somehow make them stop?

Vote against them? Well yeah you can certainly threaten them with that, in your letters of protest—problem is they know it’s an empty threat. Father’s rights groups each have their own agendas and there’s way too much infighting. Hell we can’t even agree on what to call ourselves…do you really think we can all agree on which politicians to vote for?

And even if we could… we can’t.

We are handcuffed by our non profit status. The same thing that allows us to get grants from the gov’t stops us from endorsing any politician. We are being effectively paid off and muzzled by Uncle Sam.

This is not rocket science. This is as basic as schoolyard rules. This is about bullies taking our lunch money ‘cause they know we can’t hit back. Our hands are tied by a lack of numbers a lack of unity and our 501 c3 status.

As a child I attended an inner city public school. I was naïve and innocent. My well meaning parents had sheltered me from the realities of the street.

So when the first kid in my class shoved me I did not shove back. Others noticed. Pretty soon the shoves became slaps and the slaps became a daily shakedown for my lunch money.

My parents complained to the school, which accomplished nothing since most of these attacks were unseen or off school property. The kids were warned to leave me alone.

All that did was further incite these little punks and they started breaking my glasses as an incentive for me to keep my mouth shut.

So my parents decided to tell these kids parents, not realizing that many of them came from abusive homes with parents who actually encouraged their kids to earn their lunch money by shaking down the weaker kids.

Ironically I wasn’t one of the weaker kids in my class; in fact I was actually one of the strongest. I just didn’t know how/when to hit back.

My parents love me, and they certainly meant well. But all their protests and angry letters did was cause me even more beatings.

This continued until one day when a kid made the mistake of implying that my mother was shall we say promiscuous, and I finally hit back. Hard. Knocked the kid on his ass and left actual dents in his face. (He later tried to blame the dents on rings, but everyone knows I don’t wear jewelry.)

Other kids noticed. And just like that I was no longer picked on. Because bullies are just cowards who prey on those who can’t or won’t fight back.

It’s a lesson I have carried with me my whole life. Because I have learned that in any situation there are always going to be those people who try and take advantage of others. Who mistake kindness for weakness.

For over 30 years the lawmakers, politicians, judges, lawyers, women’s special interest groups etc. have been kicking our asses and taking our lunch money. Hell they also take our breakfast and dinner funds too and call it child support.

Worst of all they steal our children from us and have the balls to say they are doing so “for the best interest of the child.”

Cripes, I’ll say this much for the punks who stole my lunch, at least they were honest about their intentions as they sat down in front of me and ate it.

Thanks to Dr Mark Klein (who paid for a bunch of us to attend The Leadership Institute) I have learned a few things about politics.

One of the things that really sank in was how minority groups can manage to be so influential. Using the gay & lesbian community as an example. He (one of our host/speakers) said what makes that group truly a political force is the fact that they are very well organized, and perhaps most importantly they vote on issues. Not candidates, not party lines—but the issues that that are key to their cause.

We were taught that it’s actually a small percentage of people who even bother to vote. And out of that small percentage you have many people who are going to vote strictly along party lines regardless of who is on their party’s ballot.

So it’s those few people who are left, the ones who do intend to vote but are on the fence about who to vote for whom political advisors target. Especially in tight, hotly contested races, because in places where a few thousand or even a few hundred votes can mean the difference between being elected or being unemployed—these people are the swing votes who can actually decide the race.

We need to unite; we need to form a strong PAC. We need to figure out where these tight races are, where these politicians, judges etc. are most vulnerable. We need to target these swing votes, and start effecting elections in ways that benefit us.

Right now our efforts are simply too random, we are all over the place. And what are we accomplishing?

A few seconds on a local news station? A few lines in a local newspaper?

Do you honestly think we are making a lasting impact?

But imagine the impact we could make if we worked together as a cohesive unit, if we put aside our differences to fight our common enemy (the system) if we had a strong PAC and focused all our efforts where they can truly make a difference.

I say we start small. We focus on a judge or local official who meets two simple criteria:

1) He/she is not at all interested in equality for both parents in custody cases and has an opponent who is and 2) He/ she is in a tight race for reelection.

Tight enough that a wave of phone calls, emails etc. to local residents could cause someone to lose just a few points with the voters.

Tight enough that a bunch of us descending on said town dressed as superheroes & carrying picket signs could move just enough people off the fence to swing an election.

That day I stood up for myself and hit back was the last day anyone ever took my lunch money. I didn’t have to fight every kid who had picked on me, hitting one sent the message loud and clear that I could and would hit back if forced too.

But we’re not even talking about lunch monies here-- these bastards are taking our children and sending us the bill for it. They have been doing so with impunity for several decades now.

So our game plan needs to radically change.

We need to get smart. We need to help a few people get into and out of public office. We need to swing a few close elections.

And in doing so, send the message that we are united, that there is a price for stealing our children, and that price is an early retirement from public office.

My only question is why aren’t we already actively doing this? Why are so many of the so called leaders of the father’s rights movement unable to see the simple logic of this?

And please don’t tell me that uniting the various groups is a lost cause—anyone whose fighting for father's rights obviously doesn’t believe in the no win scenario or they’d have gotten out long ago.

I look around and I see some of our so called leaders claiming we are making progress. I see some of the larger groups claiming to have over 10,000 members and growing.

Ok now pay attention class. Having a bunch of small father’s rights groups claiming to be an affiliate of a much larger one is unity on paper only.

Seeing new fathers rights groups form is not necessarily progress. Especially if they are really just a group who splintered off from a larger one so they could have their own acronym.

Note; just because you can string together a bunch of letters that collectively form an acronym—does not mean you must feel compelled to do so.

The Boise United Men Fighting Unfair Child Kustody or B.U.M.F.U.C.K might look great on a bumper sticker but no one is gunna know (or care) what it stands for.

Its time to start pushing the so-called leaders of some of these groups to face reality and unite. It’s time to put aside egos and ideological differences. It’s time to worry less about what the best acronym is and worry more about how to effectively influence those who stand between us and our kids.

Can you imagine trying to coach a group like this? Having a quarterback who won’t throw the ball because he wants to keep it for himself. An offensive lineman who won’t block because he doesn’t agree with the half backs style of running. Throw in a few defensive ends who refuse to sack the quarterback because they fear it might be too controversial and a kicker who won’t punt because he feels doing so sends the wrong message –and ya pretty much have our current father’s rights movement.

Why is it so damn near impossible to get these various groups to unite? I mean none of us are in this for profit…right??? None of us are making money off the suffering of non custodial parents…right???

And we can all agree (I hope) that the important thing here is the best interest of the children and that the best parent is both parents. I assume we can also agree that the child support system is corrupt and the states are getting rich off dads who have become little more then ATM’s with feet.

Parental alienation is bad….

A presumption of joint custody is good….

And so on and so on.

We need to agree to sit down and come up with a list of things we can all agree on like the things I have listed above, we need to build on that. We need to understand we aren’t going to agree on everything, and we need to agree to disagree. We need to compromise and find a middle ground between groups that are afraid to even say father’s rights and others who want to spray paint those words on the side of the fricken space shuttle for all to see.

We need to be able to offer those who join in our fight one well organized group to belong to, with clearly defined intentions and a well thought out plan to achieve them.

We wonder why more dads don’t get involved. Don’t join us in fighting for our kids. Well honestly—what exactly do we have to offer them? A t-shirt? A coffee mug? Perhaps an AA style support group so they can listen to other dads vent about how unfair the system is? Of course there’s also the endless articles, blogs, books etc. that talk about how screwed up the family court system is and how it screws up your kids (as if they somehow need to be reminded of that.)

Hey maybe we can even throw in a few lessons on how to file a motion pro se?

That way when their appeals almost inevitably get turned down—well at least they can say they dotted the I’s and crossed the T’s.

Yes, half the problem is getting more non custodials to join.

But the other half?

That’s giving them something that’s actually worthwhile to join…..

P.S. Here’s something that a united front could help make happen right away; a link some of you may not have noticed http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18826755/ please spread it around to everyone you know and ask them to write down a summary of their own stories. I would also ask that you guys all mention Dr. Klein in there as well as both a champion of our cause and Presidential candidate. That can only help get their attention.

Non-Custodialy yours,
Joe Carruba


(Please note that since I belong to so MANY non-custodial online groups, it will be impossible for me to receive daily updates from each, so if you wish for me to see your response (and be able to answer it) please post it in the comment section of this blog or send me a copy of your reply by emailing me directly at thesaint_959@yahoo.com and please be sure to let me know which forum you saw &replied to this in...thanks.)

12 Comments:

At 11:28 AM, Blogger Lary Holland said...

Hi Joe, The Tough Questions I pretty much answer and try to encourage people to spread regarding the government being in the divorce and custody business. It truly is about the money, as I lay out in the Nationwide Blueprint for Title IV-D Reform. I created a site at http://www.nationwideblueprint.com to start to give people the right talking points.

I have also linked issues together through Squidoo, which I think might be beneficial for you as well. Let's exchange links and spread the word. http://www.squidoo.com/laryholland.

Lary Holland
http://www.laryholland.com

Keep on writing and keep on publishing, we are the generation that has to step up.

 
At 11:48 AM, Blogger Joe Carruba said...

Thanks Lary,

I will check out your links, am not familiar with squidoo--would appreciate more info on that.

Also would be curious to know your position and/or ideas about uniting the estimated 200o father's rights groups in this country.

Joe Carruba

 
At 11:50 AM, Blogger Just Us For America said...

Right on Joe! Well said and to the painful point. Perhaps groups such as the Indiana CRC (and associated groups) could unite with other groups on a national basis under the leadership of Dr. MARK KLEIN.

 
At 12:00 PM, Blogger Joe Carruba said...

Thank you Just Us For America,

I haven't written in awhile...not because I lacked time or inspiration...but I reached that point (I guess we all reach) when I started wondering am I making a differnce here? Are any of us making a real difference?

I came to the conclusion that on our present course we are not. We need to unite. And if that means making waves and pissing off a few so called leaders of this movement...

...so be it.

 
At 2:10 AM, Blogger Unknown said...

Joe,
We go back a while now, I appreciate your comments, you know as well as I do that egos are the hinderence of our movement once these(leaders)decide to unite we can gain equality in the family court.I lookl forward to your comments on how we can unite.
Jeff Dick
www.mcsn.info

 
At 10:17 AM, Blogger Joe Carruba said...

Thanks Jeff,

I think ego's are a big part of it-but I think some of our so called leaders have their own agendas.

I mean am I the only one who finds it odd that we have lawyers running some of these groups?

Joe

 
At 10:54 PM, Blogger Jim said...

I'm a big believer in bringing this out into the light. If this condition or behaviour would turn into something that is as shunned as spanking or the "n" word then we have a real shot at changing not only the laws, but the culture of society. I know, as a dad, that I can parent those kids BETTER than she is doing. I have a track record of honesty and respect, she does not. If that can be brought out in public, opinions have to change.

 
At 10:10 AM, Blogger Joe Carruba said...

I understand where you’re coming from frustrated;

I used to feel like that myself…I felt if only I could let the world know my story, my poor child’s story then there would be public outrage and things would HAVE to change. I was wrong.

Sure other dad’s believe me, because many of them are in similar situations and having to write there own sad stories here on the ‘net. But they are not organized (yet) to do much about it. I’m trying to help change that.

As for the general public…well most guys who aren’t in this situation believe it does not affect them so why should they care. What they fail to realize is that more then half of today’s marriages end in divorce and almost 90 % of the time the mother is simply awarded the kids. (The other 10% of the time when dad’s do “win” custody it’s either because the mom can either be proven to be grossly unfit or the mom simply does not want the kids and allows the dad to take em.)


Joe

 
At 2:44 PM, Blogger Glenna Bible Mullenix said...

I find it ironic that you state you belong to so many groups, it's impossible for you to read daily updates from each. I have learned a lot from groups, I filed my own motions, pro se, several. Didn't do much good as I am in Tennessee and the "good ole boys" sittin' in the judge's chairs have been sittin' for a spell and they don't rightly want a white-haired grandmother comin' in their country court room, where they have everything all set up and it's been like that for years! I almost believe I may have been the first person/woman to have filed anything Pro Se in the 2 impoverished counties I went to court in. Court clerks looked at me and said they never did this before and I told them what it was and it was to be filed like any other paper a lawyer brings in. Then they knew what to do. In one court, where I was actually "bluffing" my way and was quite uncertain, one older , white-haired clerk was telling me I couldn't do this. I was filing a petition of wrongs, against my daughter, and if they weren't corrected, I wanted custody of my 3 grandchildren. I kept insisting. She said I needed a list of complaints, I showed it to her. Finally she told the younger clerk to file it. Then they asked for $2000. I presented them with my "Pauparis" form and once again the older clerk got angry, like I was trying to take money from her billfold! I even had a copy of the bill that states my rights to file pauperis. They took it, quite reluctantly, but I was later notified that the court could not/would not be able to help me. Any way, long story, nothing happened except they filed it with CPS, which I specifically stated in my affidavit NOT to do. Basically, I am trying to say groups are good for helping you get your feet wet and then you go out and try to get wet up to your neck because you know your rights, etc and you have needs for the court's help. The court's ignorance is the only thing that stopped me, so far.
Being supportive is basically what I have seen in groups and new people come in and then you support them with what you have learned, then they go out and get experience and it comes full circle. As far as groups "doing" much hands-on stuff, it isn't there. The reason being , we are in several different, as many as 8 or 10, states. We are distanced from people who have common interests and goals. And most everybody is a member of as many as 10 or 20 groups, so they get caught up in "group stuff".
I, and 2 other people from Tennessee, marched on Atlanta's capital, last year, for the Bortz family and it worked. This family was well-known to begin with and they were organized, had T. V. and newspaper people there. It just felt right and good, but I have done things on my own, hopefully some were effective, but that's the only time a group came together for a common cause.
I don't see why we can't divide ourselves up by proximity. Tennessee is fairly close to Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Kentucky, Virginia, and Alabama. Why couldn't all of us in these states work together. We could even plan activities in a state one month and another state the next. And other states come together the same way. I am not shy and I could get donations and make people aware of what we are trying to do and educate them, which I have done some of already, because this is new to so many people, like I was 5 years ago. We can make banners and march where we will get attention, en masse. And being with people from other states will be even more powerful. People don't get out of their comfort zones for no reason, this is a big , right reason to put down the remote, get off the computer (yikes!), and "do" something!
It gets frustrating, because even I, on some days, don't feel strong enough to get out there, or if I am alone, certainly it's hard, but it hasn't stopped me, so far. (DCS had the judge order the signs taken off of my car!) Civil rights get violated and you are standing there solo, not knowing what recourse you have. Having others , being together with some who know a heck lot more than you do would be uplifting. Letz do it! SEE YA AUGUST 18TH
GLENNA BIBLE MULLENIX

 
At 5:42 PM, Blogger Joe Carruba said...

Thanks for taking the time to share your story Glenna,

I should clarify what I mean by belonging to so many groups, but not being able to read daily updates…

You see, I wanted to find a way to get my writings out all over the net, so I found a bunch of online forums dedicated to father’s rights, non custodial rights, custody, support, stopping parental alienation etc.

And I joined about 100 of them. At first I tried setting my membership to allow for daily updates but I had to switch to just important notices because my email box was getting swamped.

I believe I am still fairly plugged in though… since I am on many activists CC lists and I have my own website…well there’s not much going on that I don’t hear about. Plus I try to get info out that I feel others may have missed like this Gut Check America link I posted.

I do a lot more then speak out about stuff on the internet…I do the rallies/protests etc. (You can visit the photo gallery page of my website for more on that.)

But it’s occurred to myself and others in this movement that we are going nowhere and won’t until we unite and organize.

That’s what I am fighting for, when I’m not busy fighting for custody of my own child.

I appreciate you sharing some of your story here and I admire your fighting spirit. I hope people like you can help inspire other non custodial parents and grand parents to indeed “put down the remote and do something!”

I can appreciate what it was like filing your first pro se paperwork. I won a minor civil suit awhile back. The county then had their solicitor appeal it by filing an appeal and listing all sorts of precedents. I was told I had to write an argument to his appeal, so I did. But having no experience I did so by hand and it was not at all properly formatted. Something the nice solicitor was only too happy to point out when he used it to try and get the entire case tossed out.

Thing is in trying to get my motion tossed he listed all the things wrong with it. So I used that as a sorta how-to manual for filing my next one correctly.

I didn’t make any money outta that case since I only sued for what had been wrongfully taken from me (about $200) but I learned a lot, and I like to think the county did too ;)

Joe Carruba

 
At 1:31 PM, Blogger peter said...

this is your own fight you don't care aboutother fathers do you

 
At 6:05 PM, Blogger Joe Carruba said...

If that were the case I would not bother even having this blog...a place where you might notice I seldom if ever discus my own case but others and the movement in general.

 

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